Subject	proven itself?!?! bah...give me pressure drop numbers please
Posted by	aliaZ on July 29, 2003 at 2:33 PM
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In Reply To	Its 3.5 x 11 x 24. posted by TwinTurboPete on July 29, 2003 at 01:37 PM
Message	Don't tell me its proven itself unless you can back up that claim with real data. I'm sorry, but dyno numbers are not necessarily a good indication of how good an IC is... People can push 400 RWHP through stock IC's...does that mean they've proven themselves? Definitely not. I'd like a pressure drop measurement please. I bet it is excessive, whether it is border, UAS, Apollo, Primespeed or whatever. The core configuration is all wrong and will definitely cause excessive pressure drop. Please pick up a copy of Maximum Boost by Corky Bell and read chapter 5.
Follow Ups	Dyno Day: ZEMulator tuning, TD05-16G, FMIC, 555, NOS - AshsZ of Z1Motorsports.com 16:36:28 07/28/03 too bad its ugly as ..well its ugly (n/m) - genic 16:40:21 07/28/03 LOL, I wont say anything about the TA's. ;-) (n/m) - AshsZ of Z1Motorsports.com 16:40:56 07/28/03 fair enough :) (n/m) - genic 16:43:55 07/28/03 Thanks everyone for the help - OUTLAW 17:20:09 07/28/03 *ahem* most respectably to this post - cant_z_me(OH) 01:19:16 07/29/03 I guess this post stands to be corrected.. - AshsZ of Z1Motorsports.com 20:02:56 07/29/03 Re: Dyno Day: ZEMulator tuning, TD05-16G, FMIC, 555, NOS - Magnum 16:41:30 07/28/03 He apparently has some money on some personal races... - AshsZ of Z1Motorsports.com 16:43:50 07/28/03 Re: He apparently has some money on some personal races... - Magnum 16:44:31 07/28/03 75 shot. (n/m) - AshsZ of Z1Motorsports.com 16:45:18 07/28/03 741.1HP & 679tq w/ 555's ?! (n/m) - Chris(NJ) 16:44:55 07/28/03 Wet shots are nice. :) (n/m) - AshsZ of Z1Motorsports.com 16:45:36 07/28/03 Re: Wet shots are nice. :) - Magnum 16:48:23 07/28/03 Nope. It was lower. (n/m) - AshsZ of Z1Motorsports.com 16:50:28 07/28/03 care to elaborate ? (n/m) - Chris(NJ) 16:51:28 07/28/03 ~22psi. (n/m) - AshsZ of Z1Motorsports.com 16:53:06 07/28/03 man of many words..yet in this case - genic 17:01:10 07/28/03 jaimnncn asd asdu eruhoa djh kjsd fk dkdla; - AshsZ of Z1Motorsports.com 17:05:09 07/28/03 damn you...you are no fun now - genic 17:06:04 07/28/03 Doolz? (n/m) - fourZero 16:50:33 07/28/03 It was HKS dual intake (n/m) - John@Z1 16:53:20 07/28/03 so hks intakes w/ the jwt dual setup than ? - Chris(NJ) 16:56:38 07/28/03 I noticed that too (n/m) - Zeus 17:00:51 07/28/03 No, the customer provided the HKS setup - Russell@Z1 17:06:55 07/28/03 i think that's ash's custom dual intake. (n/m) - SUPRMANZ 17:51:18 07/28/03 gee, thanks - fourZero 17:52:44 07/28/03 FNA awesome! Rear spoiler looks good. The front? Well... (n/m) - Kevin (CA) 16:54:20 07/28/03 pretty cool. (n/m) - Dallas DamonZ 16:56:08 07/28/03 Good answer, Same answer on last post, but good answer! (n/m) - Robert@Z1 16:57:41 07/28/03 Actually, I'm more impressed with John's work. - Dallas DamonZ 18:55:38 07/28/03 nasty looking, but nice #'s, was that 16 pulls with NOx? (n/m) - madman99 16:58:49 07/28/03 No, only about the last 6 pulls were with NOS. (n/m) - AshsZ of Z1Motorsports.com 16:59:57 07/28/03 Patrick Heard = Outlaw? (n/m) - 300zx300zx300zx 17:00:29 07/28/03 You got it. (n/m) - AshsZ of Z1Motorsports.com 17:00:59 07/28/03 DAMN! Very nice! Run it at the strip. Does it have a cage? (n/m) - Arnel(Z32racing.com) 17:00:43 07/28/03 Unfortunately, no. It needs one now though.. (n/m) - AshsZ of Z1Motorsports.com 17:06:04 07/28/03 If I was the owner with that power, I'd do it NOW! (n/m) - Arnel(Z32racing.com) 17:18:07 07/28/03 I am still waiting to hear what you think you can do >>> - PEwithaZ 17:00:51 07/28/03 Impressive. - ZHOUND 17:01:43 07/28/03 How much boost did you run on your 131 mph pass? (n/m) - Arnel(Z32racing.com) 17:03:20 07/28/03 Re: How much boost did you run on your 131 mph pass? - ZHOUND 17:08:35 07/28/03 Sorry, I just checked. 129. Thx (n/m) - Arnel(Z32racing.com) 17:15:17 07/28/03 Yeah, stock engine... (n/m) - AshsZ of Z1Motorsports.com 17:03:35 07/28/03 What kind of gas? (n/m) - ZHOUND 17:07:21 07/28/03 VP 110. (n/m) - AshsZ of Z1Motorsports.com 17:09:01 07/28/03 Did you look at the plugs afterwards? - ZHOUND 17:35:21 07/28/03 Not yet.... Will post about those later though.. (n/m) - AshsZ of Z1Motorsports.com 17:42:32 07/28/03 What FMIC does he have? And did you freeze >>> - George(boost-solutions.com) 17:02:33 07/28/03 Apollo FMIC, Yes we did freeze it. (n/m) - Robert@Z1 17:03:42 07/28/03 LIke I have always said, the FMIC is the WAY TO GO>>> - George(boost-solutions.com) 17:12:09 07/28/03 You mean if you want a dyno queen? ;) - SeedyROM 17:18:50 07/28/03 lol. yeah, I'd like to see the pressure drop on that run ;) (n/m) - aliaZ 17:30:55 07/28/03 I was talking about the other FMICs, like Border, mine... (n/m) - George(boost-solutions.com) 18:13:36 07/28/03 I'd still like to see pressure drop measurements - aliaZ 14:36:32 07/29/03 I have a Greddy core:-) 600x300x100mm (n/m) - George(boost-solutions.com) 18:11:25 07/29/03 What was the highest dyno pull off the bottle? (n/m) - SR Productions 17:03:14 07/28/03 520-580 something... (n/m) - AshsZ of Z1Motorsports.com 17:04:03 07/28/03 Re: 520-580 something... - SR Productions 17:06:20 07/28/03 And we froze the intercooler! (n/m) - Robert@Z1 17:09:19 07/28/03 Maybe they hadn't done all that tuning yet off the bottle? - SeedyROM 17:09:26 07/28/03 Re: Re: 520-580 something... - ZHOUND 17:15:10 07/28/03 Yeah, please take it to the track! Show me the mph! >> - Arnel(Z32racing.com) 17:17:02 07/28/03 And get video! That'd rock! (n/m) - SeedyROM 17:20:23 07/28/03 Hey. - ZHOUND 17:24:52 07/28/03 bahahahahaha - SeedyROM 17:29:48 07/28/03 Add link to this post in profile =). (n/m) - Kenny 9 psi 19:15:54 07/28/03 Re: I will be @ steele sunday the 3rd - OUTLAW 17:45:22 07/28/03 Cool. Good luck. (n/m) - ZHOUND 17:59:43 07/28/03 Ditto that! (n/m) - SeedyROM 18:20:59 07/28/03 Ditto that! (n/m) - Arnel(Z32racing.com) 18:42:02 07/28/03 I take it Auto? Please come prepared :) - ZBlacktt 19:03:20 07/28/03 5spd (n/m) - John@Z1 21:09:35 07/28/03 Profile over sight :( (n/m) - ZBlacktt 01:17:40 07/29/03 Was that without freezing the IC? - Good2Zya 22:51:01 07/28/03 I'd be willing to bet that this car would make that power - AshsZ of Z1Motorsports.com 20:11:58 07/29/03 wow...gotta say, I'm impressed. - Spee 17:04:38 07/28/03 My sentiments exactly :) - SeedyROM 17:08:36 07/28/03 Dyno-Jet? I got a call this morning about it. - Chip(GMS Racing) 17:11:52 07/28/03 It was Higgins Ford Automotive... Yes, a dyno-jet. (n/m) - AshsZ of Z1Motorsports.com 20:40:11 07/28/03 Re: Dyno Day: ZEMulator tuning, TD05-16G, FMIC, 555, NOS - 1991TT300zx 17:16:19 07/28/03 What turbos does he have??? (n/m) - 1991TT300zx 17:17:04 07/28/03 lol, it's in the subject line, TD05-16G (n/m) - Zeus 17:19:33 07/28/03 lol (n/m) - Snoguitar 17:23:20 07/28/03 Jay drives a Stage VIII Pearl White 1991 Twin Turbo coupe?? - ZBlacktt 18:22:39 07/28/03 Knight Rider 300Z, (play Knight Rider music here) (n/m) - MikeH(Twin GT35BB Incon Z) 17:28:58 07/28/03 That should put you FMIC haters to rest with those - MikeH(Twin GT35BB Incon Z) 17:29:39 07/28/03 Why? (n/m) - Snoguitar 17:35:12 07/28/03 Oh please...that is hardly conclusive - aliaZ 17:37:27 07/28/03 The TD05-16G is at it's limits. If it had a huge pressure - MikeH(Twin GT35BB Incon Z) 17:44:03 07/28/03 at 22 psi? - aliaZ 17:56:21 07/28/03 Hardly. (n/m) - YugoBernie (NoVA) 18:06:56 07/28/03 Not a chance. - SeedyROM 18:20:28 07/28/03 not so much (n/m) - Spee 20:35:08 07/28/03 Nice numbers----> - Kyle(Houston) 17:34:33 07/28/03 Thanks man.. My Bonneville guys told me about using - AshsZ of Z1Motorsports.com 17:37:20 07/28/03 Yeah I have heard of it being done...just never imagined---> - Kyle(Houston) 17:44:31 07/28/03 No, we used N2O. Its the NX FMIC NOS sprayer.. (n/m) - AshsZ of Z1Motorsports.com 17:46:33 07/28/03 Wouldn't CO2 be more cost effective? - GamblerZ 20:38:51 07/28/03 Wow, that's amazing... - KILLR300ZX 19:22:30 07/28/03 Stupid Q...How do you freeze an Intercooler? Do you use that - hoss 17:41:56 07/28/03 I believe it is the NX kit. It sprays NOS onto the FMIC - AshsZ of Z1Motorsports.com 17:43:40 07/28/03 Neat. Excellent work, btw. (n/m) - hoss 17:47:20 07/28/03 given thought to LN2? Colder than LCO2, and cheap. (n/m) - Scotts94z32 18:10:15 07/28/03 why not just utilize the N20 plumbing already there? - fourZero 18:15:58 07/28/03 true, but LN2 is colder (-321F BP versus -129F for N20) - Scotts94z32 13:31:10 07/29/03 Re: I believe it is the NX kit. It sprays NOS onto the FMIC - SR Productions 20:35:29 07/28/03 Re: I believe it is the NX kit. It sprays NOS onto the FMIC - SR Productions 23:02:11 07/28/03 Re: Nice numbers----> - SR Productions 17:46:17 07/28/03 The intercooler is not frozen. (n/m) - John@Z1 17:53:18 07/28/03 Apollo FMIC, Yes we did freeze it. (n/m) - Robert@Z1 18:03:4 (n/m) - Halo Z 18:27:22 07/28/03 LOL, he means they sprayed it down with the kit - SeedyROM 18:28:57 07/28/03 Thanks Seedy, you think good. (n/m) - John@Z1 21:47:00 07/28/03 That can be done anytime you want. - Russell@Z1 17:54:40 07/28/03 Your toy is in the mail. It'll be there tomorrow. (n/m) - Dallas DamonZ 18:59:04 07/28/03 Thank you Thank you Thank you and THANK YOU ;-)............. (n/m) - Kyle(Houston) 21:45:43 07/28/03 How do you freeze it? (n/m) - TwinTurboPete 00:40:22 07/29/03 I'm sold... - Pelleon 17:37:35 07/28/03 Nice numbers, but I'd like to see a better FMIC - aliaZ 17:42:50 07/28/03 Yes we can, it just requires a little fabrication (n/m) - Russell@Z1 17:48:31 07/28/03 why not? Maybe he had the 3.5" core (n/m) - TwinTurboPete 00:42:15 07/29/03 still too small. Its an overall poor design (n/m) - aliaZ 08:38:03 07/29/03 Its 3.5 x 11 x 24. - TwinTurboPete 13:37:13 07/29/03 proven itself?!?! bah...give me pressure drop numbers please - aliaZ 14:33:35 07/29/03 Do you have any pressue drop measurements for sidemounts? (n/m) - TwinTurboPete 14:40:27 07/29/03 not yet - aliaZ 16:33:06 07/29/03 WOW...few questions... - ix3 17:50:30 07/28/03 4th gear, sounds crazy as hell. You can fell the power - John@Z1 17:56:35 07/28/03 **Sigh** I'm so ready for my car to be done. Nice job! (n/m) - RegalZ 17:56:28 07/28/03 congrats. you guys deserve it. (n/m) - joel(PA) 18:11:01 07/28/03 It would have to come from a Z that looks like a Supra :( - ZBlacktt 18:14:53 07/28/03 and :) - ZBlacktt 18:36:48 07/28/03 I was thinking exactly the same thing:-) (n/m) - George(boost-solutions.com) 18:50:24 07/28/03 you can measure exhaust back pressure by t-ing into the - Scotts94z32 13:35:07 07/29/03 ok, I was asking what did he do to measure :) (n/m) - ZBlacktt 14:52:39 07/29/03 Work Wheels? (n/m) - U ZCREAM 18:19:38 07/28/03 Those are some crazy numbers. Congrats! (n/m) - 1BADTTZ 18:37:16 07/28/03 Great numbers - Marshall 18:38:46 07/28/03 That's pretty amazing Ash. Nice job! (n/m) - Adam A. 18:39:03 07/28/03 very very nice #'s! (n/m) - Wagz 18:44:39 07/28/03 wow, I'm impressed (n/m) - Janders 18:59:25 07/28/03 The leaders in progressive engineuity! Congrats Z1! (n/m) - Z1TRUTH 20:09:49 07/28/03 8-O Sweet! (n/m) - BryZ32TT 20:31:32 07/28/03 I never thought a stock internal Z would ever pull those... - P Rock(OH) 21:09:24 07/28/03 Congrats!!! You are amazing. (n/m) - TwinTurboPete 00:36:04 07/29/03 It's not sex, for Christ's sake! (n/m) - xxbulovax91xx 04:38:39 07/29/03 Cool, good to hear about more high horse Z's. (n/m) - Sportzcoop 00:36:30 07/29/03 Why the drop in 5500-6300 rpm? - weingart 01:00:31 07/29/03 Amazing. So is this officially the highest RWHP on a stock - degradated 01:46:51 07/29/03 There are actually two NOS fogger nozzles aimed at the - AshsZ of Z1Motorsports.com 09:25:01 07/29/03 Nice results. - Rob.M @ Downshift Magazine 06:53:41 07/29/03 Nice #'s guys, now get Ash on my car pronto!!! (n/m) - NSANY(ATL) 08:08:34 07/29/03 im just curious about the 555s, how is that enough fuel? - JJtwinturbo 13:19:32 07/29/03 nitrous is colder than CO2, by about 58 degrees F. - Scotts94z32 13:32:30 07/29/03 You might run into problems with liquid nitrogen - madman99 13:45:32 07/29/03 well, temp cycling to this extreme for most metals will - Scotts94z32 13:57:07 07/29/03 im just curious about the 555s, how is that enough fuel? - JJtwinturbo 13:49:18 07/29/03 nice! - georgeu2000 14:32:11 07/29/03
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